Comments on: First impressions: Vault http://blog.excastle.com/2004/11/14/first-impressions-vault/ Life, .NET, and Cats Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:39:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Jeff Clausius http://blog.excastle.com/2004/11/14/first-impressions-vault/#comment-4766 Jeff Clausius Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:46:00 +0000 http://blog.excastle.com/2004/11/14/first-impressions-vault/#comment-4766 Joe: <br> <br>One last follow up here. Running a "compare versions" within the VS.Net IDE follows the settings you have configured within the Vault GUI client. <br> <br>So if you have configured the Vault GUI client to not show the Diff options, and provide the default setting, the VS.Net IDE will not display the dialog with all of the diffing options. <br> <br>HTH <br>Jeff Joe:

One last follow up here. Running a "compare versions" within the VS.Net IDE follows the settings you have configured within the Vault GUI client.

So if you have configured the Vault GUI client to not show the Diff options, and provide the default setting, the VS.Net IDE will not display the dialog with all of the diffing options.

HTH

Jeff

]]> By: Joe White http://blog.excastle.com/2004/11/14/first-impressions-vault/#comment-4765 Joe White Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:00:00 +0000 http://blog.excastle.com/2004/11/14/first-impressions-vault/#comment-4765 Ryan - The server we would probably put it on already has IIS and MSSQL, so that's not a big deal for us. But I hadn't run across anything that talked about its offline mode. I may have to dig into that a little more. And, yeah... if I lose the diffs, I guess it wouldn't be the end of the world, but I'll have to think about it. <br> <br>Jeff - Great info; I'll be looking forward to the new release. I know Eric had mentioned the beta was out, but I'm not quite that adventurous. I'll give 3.0 a try when it comes out. Thanks! Ryan - The server we would probably put it on already has IIS and MSSQL, so that’s not a big deal for us. But I hadn’t run across anything that talked about its offline mode. I may have to dig into that a little more. And, yeah… if I lose the diffs, I guess it wouldn’t be the end of the world, but I’ll have to think about it.

Jeff - Great info; I’ll be looking forward to the new release. I know Eric had mentioned the beta was out, but I’m not quite that adventurous. I’ll give 3.0 a try when it comes out. Thanks!

]]> By: Jeff Clausius http://blog.excastle.com/2004/11/14/first-impressions-vault/#comment-4764 Jeff Clausius Tue, 16 Nov 2004 01:19:00 +0000 http://blog.excastle.com/2004/11/14/first-impressions-vault/#comment-4764 Joe - <br> <br>One last thing. I just checked the bug fixes for Vault 3.0 ( look for it in a week or two ). SourceGear Diff/Merge ( SGDM ) has had a number of improvements, one of them includes remembering the position of the non-maximized window. <br> <br>Jeff Joe -

One last thing. I just checked the bug fixes for Vault 3.0 ( look for it in a week or two ). SourceGear Diff/Merge ( SGDM ) has had a number of improvements, one of them includes remembering the position of the non-maximized window.

Jeff

]]> By: Jeff Clausius http://blog.excastle.com/2004/11/14/first-impressions-vault/#comment-4763 Jeff Clausius Tue, 16 Nov 2004 01:03:00 +0000 http://blog.excastle.com/2004/11/14/first-impressions-vault/#comment-4763 Joe: <br> <br>I'm glad you're up and running. I was just reading up on your blog, and wanted to thank you for the feedback. <br> <br>I've addressed a couple of questions / issues you brought up: <br> <br>1) Vault Server installation does not create shortcuts for everyone. As you mentioned, although the Vault Server installation does include all 3 pieces ( Server, Client, and Admin Tool ), it only create shortcuts for the current user's profile. <br> <br>This was originally done for security purposes, as the server was not meant to create a program group for all users. However, when this was designed, the Single User License didn't exist. A lot has changed since then. I've created a feature request to add an option for the location ( similar to the Vault client ). <br> <br>2) Diffing from within the IDE. You are right, there is not a "show this dialog when shift is down" option, although one does exist for the normal Vault GUI client's diff dialog. I've logged an investigative bug here to see what is going on. <br> <br>If there are any other praises, gripes, or questions, please don't hesitate to let us know. You can sound off at one of the Vault forums - <a target="_new" href="http://support.sourcegear.com" rel="nofollow">http://support.sourcegear.com</a>. <br> <br>Thanks again for the feedback. <br> <br>Jeff <br>SourceGear Joe:

I’m glad you’re up and running. I was just reading up on your blog, and wanted to thank you for the feedback.

I’ve addressed a couple of questions / issues you brought up:

1) Vault Server installation does not create shortcuts for everyone. As you mentioned, although the Vault Server installation does include all 3 pieces ( Server, Client, and Admin Tool ), it only create shortcuts for the current user’s profile.

This was originally done for security purposes, as the server was not meant to create a program group for all users. However, when this was designed, the Single User License didn’t exist. A lot has changed since then. I’ve created a feature request to add an option for the location ( similar to the Vault client ).

2) Diffing from within the IDE. You are right, there is not a "show this dialog when shift is down" option, although one does exist for the normal Vault GUI client’s diff dialog. I’ve logged an investigative bug here to see what is going on.

If there are any other praises, gripes, or questions, please don’t hesitate to let us know. You can sound off at one of the Vault forums - http://support.sourcegear.com.

Thanks again for the feedback.

Jeff

SourceGear

]]> By: Ryan http://blog.excastle.com/2004/11/14/first-impressions-vault/#comment-4762 Ryan Tue, 16 Nov 2004 00:45:00 +0000 http://blog.excastle.com/2004/11/14/first-impressions-vault/#comment-4762 Unlike some of the other VCS programs, installing TC does not take an act of congress. Just install the server, then install the client. No 3rd party stuff at all (and uninstalls just as easy). We tried it out on the real project... Worse possible case is that you lose your revision tracking (hopefully not that big of a deal for 30 days worth on a personal project), and all your files are read-only which is easily fixed. I was impressed by the small footprint (less parts = less things to break, at least when dealing with IIS and SQL server), how it has an offline mode (great for the development laptop), and how it works over a remote connection (nearly like it is on a LAN!). Again, I looked at a lot, including StarTeam, CVS, PVCS, Rational, Vault, and just about any other one that I could find online... For the money, nothing came close to the easy maintainability and features. Your mileage may vary though. Unlike some of the other VCS programs, installing TC does not take an act of congress. Just install the server, then install the client. No 3rd party stuff at all (and uninstalls just as easy). We tried it out on the real project… Worse possible case is that you lose your revision tracking (hopefully not that big of a deal for 30 days worth on a personal project), and all your files are read-only which is easily fixed. I was impressed by the small footprint (less parts = less things to break, at least when dealing with IIS and SQL server), how it has an offline mode (great for the development laptop), and how it works over a remote connection (nearly like it is on a LAN!). Again, I looked at a lot, including StarTeam, CVS, PVCS, Rational, Vault, and just about any other one that I could find online… For the money, nothing came close to the easy maintainability and features. Your mileage may vary though.

]]> By: Joe White http://blog.excastle.com/2004/11/14/first-impressions-vault/#comment-4761 Joe White Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:15:00 +0000 http://blog.excastle.com/2004/11/14/first-impressions-vault/#comment-4761 Hmm, TeamCoherence does look interesting. The user guide is good; I dislike the complete lack of screenshots, but they more than make up for it with the scenarios. I'll have to spend some time looking into this some more. <br> <br>Unfortunately, they don't have a free single-user version. I'd hate to buy it without trying it on a real project, but I'd hate to try it on a real project if it's going to expire in thirty days. Bleh. Hmm, TeamCoherence does look interesting. The user guide is good; I dislike the complete lack of screenshots, but they more than make up for it with the scenarios. I’ll have to spend some time looking into this some more.

Unfortunately, they don’t have a free single-user version. I’d hate to buy it without trying it on a real project, but I’d hate to try it on a real project if it’s going to expire in thirty days. Bleh.

]]> By: Ryan http://blog.excastle.com/2004/11/14/first-impressions-vault/#comment-4760 Ryan Sun, 14 Nov 2004 15:52:00 +0000 http://blog.excastle.com/2004/11/14/first-impressions-vault/#comment-4760 I'd look at TeamCoherence. I looked at a ton of VCS programs and that was my favorite. Very fast, has it its own server app, etc. Integrates with all the major IDEs. I’d look at TeamCoherence. I looked at a ton of VCS programs and that was my favorite. Very fast, has it its own server app, etc. Integrates with all the major IDEs.

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